Category Archives: Canal

Pollution in the Canal?

For the second time in a month I’ve noticed something seeping into the canal via the culvert by the entrance to the bowling green. I’ve been in touch with Southern Water who are investigating the source.
I feel that a lot of residents are unaware of what happens to surface water when it goes down the roadside drains. Well it ends up in the canal!!
It seems to me that a lot of people think drains are a somewhat magical invention that manage to “disappear” anything thrown in /down them. In our
village they don’t disappear they pollute our waterways.

Fil Bower

Cyclists on the Canal Path – topic closing

 

Recently there has been a lot of healthy debate regarding the canal path  – comments both for and against the use of the canal path by cyclists. Thanks to all who contributed.

The Forum will have no say on whether cyclists use the footpath or not. What the Forum will do is to seek funding to improve what is a valuable resource for everyone in Titchfield. Any proposal will then be put to the public for approval.

We are closing this topic now but will keep you all informed if anything significant crops up.

 

Ross Underwood responds to Councillor Hockley re the canal path and cyclists

Dear Cllr Hockley

Thank you for your interest in the Titchfield News article and for the efforts that you have made to enhance the canal.

The website article resulted from the Neighbourhood Forum, Footpaths and Cycle Paths sub group, which I chair, exploring the condition of local footpaths with the view to calling for maintenance as needed. We are interested in identifying circular routes from the village and publicising them so that local people and visitors have more things to do in Titchfield. This in turn would contribute to the goal of bringing more trade to the local businesses and securing the the village’s long term economic viability. 

contacted Dr Dent of Titchfield Haven to find out more about ownership and maintenance of the canal. We had a wide ranging discussion, which resulted in the plan to open up the canal path for wheelchair users, so there is now a RADAR lock on the gate at the Bridge Street end. 

I said how the top section had been improved by the resurfacing and we both held the aspiration that this work should be continued right through to Meon Shore. When we considered how such a venture might be financed, it was clear that potential funders would need to see substantially increased access and usage before agreeing to contribute to the work. Dual use as a footpath and cycle path would be a logical way forward and it was felt that this would not adversely affect the wildlife. This would however bring additional requirements in terms of the width of the path, the surface and the cost, so is not an easy solution. Such a project would be complicated by the northern section having been completed already in narrow format and due consideration of the water voles and other wildlife.

The Titchfield Neighbourhood Forum objective is to influence current and future developments concerning the village. Its proposals will be subject to community consultation and approval. It has broached the subject of dual usage of the canal on the website and in the Parish Magazine and the response has been very interesting. There is some opposition, but the desire for a safe cycle route to the sea has been articulated and seems a reasonable aspiration. I trust the debate will be respectful and bring out all the views. 

I note that Chris, in opposition to cycling on the canal path, recognised the issue of cycling on Posbrook Lane. The other part of the sub group’s work is to examine facilities and safety for cyclists. Posbrook Lane is much used by cyclists for both commuting and leisure. The Lane is very narrow and hectic especially at rush hour, so we are looking at what measures there might be to make the road safer for cyclists. We are also identifying circular cycle routes, of different lengths, from the village  and intend to publicise them as with the footpaths. Safe walking and cycling routes for the children to school is also under consideration with personnel from the school and HCC.

I trust you will support the Neighbourhood Plan when it is completed.

Thanking you.

Kind regards

Ross Underwood

Councillor Hockley – The Canal and Cyclists

Over the years I have made my thoughts about the Titchfield canal AND  path
very clear and have sp;ent a considerable amount of time ensuring that A/.
The Canal is cleaned out and B/ that sufficient money was made available
from HCC in order to substantially improve the canal path.  I managed to
obtain much assistance from Messrs Amey who on one day alone provided 45
volunteers who I spent the entire day cleaning out the canal and allowing
the water proper flow.  At a latter date we spent a further day cleaning out
the canal from under the A27 Road to the bridge at East Street.  This
exercise much improved the water flow and for the first time in many years
homes whose gardens ran down to the canal were not flooded.  The Canal path
which had been little more than a muddy track was totally replaced and is
now a very satisfactory path way  that allows walkers, children and family
groups to enjoy the canal.  Equally important is the fact that some 500
Water Voles now live in and around the canal and I am advised that many have
created homes under the new path.

Within the news and views paper, TITCHFIELD MATTERS I have read with
interest the views of people I respect within the village, residents such as
Chris Walker,  Tim. Mason, Clive, Fil Bower and indeed others.  The canal is
indeed a  path,  a place too walk, not to ride bikes at silly speeds I have
also read the views of those who who would open up the path to cyclists and
I wont go into the damage they could and do cause.  I am delighted that we
have sensible thinking from the Chris Walkers of this world.  Good on you
Chris!

As a final thought let me say that I will fight tooth and nail the
suggestion that bikes be allowed on the canal path,  The Titchfield Forum
really should consider the sense of some of their more outrageous
suggestions and the damage they could  cause.   Thy might simply prefer to
take note of the sign’ s that ban bikes

Best regards

Geoff Hockley
County Councillor

A quiet walk on the canal path…

Bank Holiday Monday, enjoying a quiet walk along canal only to be greeted by two adult male cyclists steaming along the path. When I pointed out the path was for Walkers Only I was greeted with a sarcastic remark and they just continued on their way. Ignorance certainly is bliss in the cycling world and those that really do not care just put all cyclists in a bad light.

Jayne

Cycling the canal path is safer than using the road.

Note this is a re-post because the notification system was not fully operational when it was originally posted.

As a mother of a junior school child learning to cycle and a keen walker of the canal who has only ever experienced polite, thoughtful behaviour from both cyclists and walkers, I am surprised at some of the posts here. As a walker I do not mind stepping sideways occasionally to let a jogger or cyclist past. I would certainly prefer to share such a valuable learning and environmental experience with children and other locals and visitors (whether they cycle, run or walk) than know that I am sending children and adult cyclists down a dangerous road with blind bends and cars driving fast (risking God knows what!) when there is such a wonderful resource that we can all share.

Helen

Cyclists on canal path

I have feet in all camps .. though not enough feet!  As a horsey, bike owning dog walker I’m firmly in the walkers only camp. The cyclists that I regularly see riding the path (even at night in groups) are almost exclusively riding mountain bikes. The canal path is far from being mountainous and is far more akin to pavement. I thought that the purpose of this type of bike was to test your ability on testing terrain , which the footpath is certainly not. Re: the safety element of bikes and pedestrians and the warning of approaching bikes , I can’t remember the last time I heard a rider ring a bell to alert others of their arrival. Perhaps it’s not “cool” to have a bell.
As regards putting the equestrians into the mix that would be totally ridiculous. Horses and dogs have minds of their own and despite the best efforts of riders /owners they do at times do their own thing. In addition horses would destroy the walkability of the pathway . The only answer would be to provide a seperate way for both styles of rider- the practicalities and cost of providing this would be beyond limited budgets which may be available.
At present the canal walk is just a foot path, and a very nice one where dogs can run free in safety I would hate to see this change. There are signs that ban cyclists at present , but they are ignored and who is going to “police” this path anyway?

Fil Bower

Cyclists on canal path – April 14th 2017

I walked the Canal Path this afternoon, and in about an hour there were over 50 other people there, including children.  It actually seemed congested!  I can imagine that even 2 or 3 cyclists would have caused significant problems for people.

There would no little possibility of widening the path, because when I spoke to the people surfacing the upper area, and they said they could not make it wider, or put in edges because of the water vole tunnels that run under the path.

Note that despite the walkers only and no cycling signs on the entrances, some cyclists persist in using the path.

Lyndon Hatfield

Please do not allow cyclists on the canal path.

Please do not allow cyclists on the canal path, which is currently a footpath and therefore prohibits cycling. I am a regular walker and find that the majority of cyclists on bridleways (where they are allowed) cycle fast with no regard for walkers, often giving no warning when they are approaching from behind you. Bridleways also allow horse riders and I am unclear how you can have cyclists without horse riders too. Cyclists have Brownwich Lane as an alternative.

Pat

Cyclists on canal path

Without wanting to get into an online argument with ‘Tim’ (suspect he may well be a cyclist).

A) his ‘argument’ Re bad car drivers etc is bordering on ridiculous.

B) having cyclists would not necessarily mean then having to open up path to horse riders

I have not come across any cyclist using the track who has shown consideration for walkers by slowing down or dismounting. Cyclists do use it as a ‘rat run’ from the Haven (check it out early in the morning); children go down ‘without a care in the World’ for others and MAMILs use it possibly to test their endurance skills! I was informed by a cyclist that the “Walkers Only” sign meant no horses and it was okay for cyclists to use – they apply this rule when they are seen weaving in and out of the public in pedestrianised areas around Fareham.

The cliff top from the Haven to the caravan site was always walkers only but then the sign was kicked over some years ago and now cyclists use this regularly. Ever met a cyclist coming down the very narrow stretch of path which runs alongside the houses just before the Haven/beach hut area, it’s not pleasant and involves getting over friendly with the gorse or being run down. Cyclists also create huge ruts in the path which fill with water in the winter months.

I will not be responding to any further comments by ‘Tim’ as I believe we are all entitled to our opinions.

Cyclists on Canal Path

It is as irrational to ban all cyclists from the canal footpath as a result of the discourteous actions of a minority, as it would be to ban all cars from our roads for a similar reason.

What I am uncertain of however, is whether opening up the route to cyclists would necessitate converting the footpath to a bridleway. If it were, then that would open it up to horse riders. Whilst I have no objection to horse riders in principle, I fear that it would be virtually impossible to provide a satisfactory path surface that would be resistant to the challenge of horses’ hooves.

Tim.

Himalayan Balsam spreading down canal.

I am concerned about the Himalayan Balsam gradually spreading down the canal at Titchfield  towards the sea. As far as I know it hasn’t spread south of the bridge in Bridge Street. I contacted the Haven last year and they just asked me to pull up all that I could see (and reach).

Although it is very pretty in flower it is such an invasive plant that it will kill off all the native plants. This afternoon I have pulled up a dozen new young plants from the bottom of my garden alongside the canal.  I don’t know how this can be controlled apart from destroying it. Perhaps it doesn’t matter? But I feel worried.

Patricia Wenham